Is grey work to be shown in my CV? Nadvädzujúci príspevok na vyvesovateľa: Karletto666
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Dear,
I wonder, if i should show also grey work in my CV. What do you think?7
Yours...
| | | | Rachel Waddington 
Spojené krá¾ovstvo
Local time: 13:11
holandčina -> angličtina
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Karletto666 wrote:
Dear,
I wonder, if i should show also grey work in my CV. What do you think?7
Yours...
It's up to you what you include.
What is grey work?
| | | | Karletto666
Slovinsko
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Rachel Waddington wrote:
Karletto666 wrote:
Dear,
I wonder, if i should show also grey work in my CV. What do you think?7
Yours...
It's up to you what you include.
What is grey work?
work without contract
| | | | IrinaN
Spojené štáty
Local time: 07:11
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"Grey pay, grey salary" in Eastern Europe and other post-Soviet era countries means "pay under the table" - cash, no trace and no taxes. Another synonym - "in the envelope".
It's very different from the simple "no contract" in Western culture where a simple email is sufficient, binding and admissible in court so we often work "without contract" per se but still get reported to tax authorities and pay taxes.
On the one hand, one could say who cares when in comes to resu... See more "Grey pay, grey salary" in Eastern Europe and other post-Soviet era countries means "pay under the table" - cash, no trace and no taxes. Another synonym - "in the envelope".
It's very different from the simple "no contract" in Western culture where a simple email is sufficient, binding and admissible in court so we often work "without contract" per se but still get reported to tax authorities and pay taxes.
On the one hand, one could say who cares when in comes to resume. Who would be eager to open any kind of investigation:-) On the other - do you want to disclose your grey payers? It's up to you. You could just mention the subjects without any other specifics, if you wish. It's not really a question for a public forum, if you ask me... It involves some grey ethics. ▲ Collapse
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Dan Lucas
Spojené krá¾ovstvo
Local time: 13:11
Člen (2014)
japončina -> angličtina
Karletto666 wrote:
work without contract
It is normal to work without a contract in the sense that a freelancer usually signs an NDA and some kind of service-level agreement, but those typically only set out the basic terms and conditions for the work. The purchase order tends to act as the contract for the individual transaction, specifying content, deadline, pricing, and volume. By their nature, such agreements are effective only for a short period of time.
It would be highly unusual to have a contract that specifies a certain amount of work over a certain amount of time, as if you were an employee. The whole point of freelancers is that the clients who make use of their services can do so without incurring such obligations.
However, I would advise you against using client names on a CV, regardless of the nature of the agreement/s you have/had with them.
Regards,
Dan
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...work without paying tax and therefore being able to undercut other colleagues with a "best rate"? Hmm, let me think about it. Where are you based, by the way?
[Bearbeitet am 2024-10-20 09:40 GMT]
| | | | British Diana
Nemecko
Local time: 14:11
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| Samuel Murray
Holandsko
Local time: 14:11
Člen (2006)
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Karletto666 wrote:
I wonder, if I should show also grey work in my CV. What do you think?
If you are applying for an in-house position, then your CV is likely to contain extensive information about your previous employment, including the name of the company that you worked for, the period that you worked for them, the position that you worked in, etc. If any of those instances are grey, then you should NOT include them in the CV, because as a grey worker you have an obligation to your former employers to keep their infractions a secret.
But a freelancer CV typically mentions only the type of work and the broader field in which the work was conducted. The CV does not contain any identifiable or guessable information about your previous employers. The freelancer CV often also contains only broad date ranges and not specific dates or places. So in that case, I would definitely encourage you to include it in your CV.
Karletto666 wrote:
Rachel Waddington wrote:
What is grey work?
Work without contract
I agree with what others have said here: many freelancers work "without an employment contract" for most of their clients anyway (they may have signed agreements with some of them, but those are not employment contracts), so if the "grey work" that you're talking about is simply work that you did as a freelancer generally, then by all means include it.
[Edited at 2024-10-21 09:46 GMT]
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Edwin den Boer
Holandsko
Local time: 14:11
Člen (2009)
angličtina -> holandčina
| Different terms and conditions | Oct 21 |
Leaving aside the grey work issue, agencies and end clients may have different positions on what you're allowed to include in your CV.
- Many assume that this will be covered by the NDA, which may or may not be true.
- Some will give an explicit warning that you're not allowed to mention them on your CV. In my experience, these tend to be end clients anyone would recognize from a general description.
- But... See more Leaving aside the grey work issue, agencies and end clients may have different positions on what you're allowed to include in your CV.
- Many assume that this will be covered by the NDA, which may or may not be true.
- Some will give an explicit warning that you're not allowed to mention them on your CV. In my experience, these tend to be end clients anyone would recognize from a general description.
- But I also have a client which was happy to be mentioned.
In any case, with regard to CVs posted publicly on ProZ or on your own website, I'd be very careful about sharing your own personal information as well as information about your clients.
It's a weird quirk of the translation industry to rely on freelancer CVs so much, and there are scammers who will abuse your data when you have a good CV. ▲ Collapse
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