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Renvi Ulrich 
Cameroon
Local time: 18:38
Member
English to French
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Hey there, fellow Prozians! I thought of sharing my opinion on this topic today.
The Kudoz forum is a great way for professional translators to get started or grow in their careers, as it helps them advance their skills, showcase their talents, and improve their ranking in the translator’s directory, all while giving fellow professionals a hand. However, if used wrongly, it might have the opposite effect. Let’s talk specifically about the “Disagree” comment. It’s like a s... See more Hey there, fellow Prozians! I thought of sharing my opinion on this topic today.
The Kudoz forum is a great way for professional translators to get started or grow in their careers, as it helps them advance their skills, showcase their talents, and improve their ranking in the translator’s directory, all while giving fellow professionals a hand. However, if used wrongly, it might have the opposite effect. Let’s talk specifically about the “Disagree” comment. It’s like a superpower, but with great power comes great responsibility. Here are two pitfalls to avoid.
Not an Attack Weapon
Don't get defensive when someone hits the disagree button on your answer. It's not a personal attack, and it doesn't mean that your answer is wrong. Instead of arguing, try to understand why they disagree with you and see if you can provide a better explanation.
What if someone repeated the same answer as you, way after you first posted, or you simply don’t like the answer? Don’t be quick to hit the disagree button, as it doesn’t help anyone. Remember, we are all here to help each other, not to bring each other down.
Not a Defense Weapon Either
Don't get defensive when someone hits the disagree button on your answer. It's generally not a personal attack. Instead of arguing, try to understand why they disagree with you and see if you can provide a better explanation. We are all there to learn and improve, and constructive criticism is essential for that.
Now, what if you took a lot of time to research and document your proposal, and someone disagreed only to bring you down and promote his answer? You may be tempted to go ahead and disagree with his answer as well. In this case, remember that the world is watching you and will judge you on your reaction. Stay calm and resist the urge to fight back. If you choose to respond to his note, do so politely. The community knows these unfair tricks and will generally not be misled.
Why does it matter?
Your reaction on the forum can give clients and recruiters an idea of what you know, but also who you are. Most of the recruiters who visit your Proz.com profile are interested in two pages: Contact page and, you guessed it, Kudoz (answered)! So remember, use your superpowers wisely!
Have you ever felt like using the “Disagree” button as a weapon? If so, please share your experience with us here. ▲ Collapse
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Renvi Ulrich wrote:
Have you ever felt like using the (Kudoz) “Disagree” button as a weapon? If so, please share your experience with us here.
No I haven't.
But I'd be sorely tempted to hit the 'Disagree' button on your opening post in this thread - if only we had that option.
JL
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| Post removed: This post was hidden by a moderator or staff member because it was not in line with site rule | Renvi Ulrich
Cameroon
Local time: 18:38
Member
English to French
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Thank you for your feedback. Beyond the tone or sometimes the words used, I see very useful feedback. I will take them into consideration as I keep polishing my approach. So, please don't change anything.
I remain convinced that there are thousands of fellows out there looking for just this kind of info. Your comments can only help guide me to the right way of reaching them. So, thank you all
For our colleagues that shy away from forums because of negative comments, ple... See more Thank you for your feedback. Beyond the tone or sometimes the words used, I see very useful feedback. I will take them into consideration as I keep polishing my approach. So, please don't change anything.
I remain convinced that there are thousands of fellows out there looking for just this kind of info. Your comments can only help guide me to the right way of reaching them. So, thank you all
For our colleagues that shy away from forums because of negative comments, please let us know what you think about the suggestions given here. A good one to you all.
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| | | | Renvi Ulrich
Cameroon
Local time: 18:38
Member
English to French
TOPIC STARTER SITE LOCALIZER
I agree with you. There are times were disagreeing is useful, like when you are convinced that the answer is totally off. A good rule that I apply in all cases is to address the idea but spare the person.
| | | | Renvi Ulrich
Cameroon
Local time: 18:38
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English to French
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Very insightful, thank you.
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Renvi Ulrich
Cameroon
Local time: 18:38
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English to French
TOPIC STARTER SITE LOCALIZER | Lieven Malaise
Belgium
Local time: 19:38
Member (2020)
French to Dutch
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| Live and let live... | Aug 29, 2023 |
... is a beautiful saying that, judging by the vitriol that is rampant on these pages, deserves more attention. I think I'll change the bookmark name of this website into "Grumpy old men and women vitriol for translators".
| | | | expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 18:38
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English to Portuguese
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| Common sense and professionalism | Aug 29, 2023 |
Renvi Ulrich wrote:
I remain convinced that there are thousands of fellows out there looking for just this kind of info.
I apologise for what I'm about to say, but the kind of information you're detailing here is part of common sense and professionalism. There's nothing new.
A self-respecting translator isn't going to start "shooting" disagrees and using them as a "weapon".
In any case, the use of peer comments (agree, mainly disagree and neutral) is defined in the site's FAQ.
"Peer comments must be based on linguistic considerations and said considerations must be provided in case of disagree or neutral comments. This is the only valid way to comment on a KudoZ answer."
You just need to be professional, cordial, respectful and have common sense to communicate in a forum like this or any other.
For others (colleagues and clients, or the entire Proz community in general), our actions and words reveal much more than we think.
So, it's a matter of being able to make good, reasonable and prudent judgements and behave sensibly/professionally.
| | | | | Nothing to say... | Aug 29, 2023 |
...anything against repeating and repeating the same topics again and again, although it seems that this site seems to be frequented by always the same handful of people (like me). On the other side there are still newcomers looking or asking for advise and it doesn't hurt when they are given advise. For those who are annoyed of that in the manner shown here, please move your fighting zone to other areas (for example to the KudoZ site, where you may use the "Disagree" button as a kind of weapon)... See more ...anything against repeating and repeating the same topics again and again, although it seems that this site seems to be frequented by always the same handful of people (like me). On the other side there are still newcomers looking or asking for advise and it doesn't hurt when they are given advise. For those who are annoyed of that in the manner shown here, please move your fighting zone to other areas (for example to the KudoZ site, where you may use the "Disagree" button as a kind of weapon). ▲ Collapse
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| Post removed: This post was hidden by a moderator or staff member because it was not in line with site rule | Kay Denney
France
Local time: 19:38
French to English
Everything I've ever heard about Kudoz here has put me right off ever spending time there.
I try to be civil to all and sundry here, because I'm a decent human being, but honestly, clients don't spend time here or in Kudoz, so telling us it's important to be civil so clients don't get put off by our attitood is not very useful. After all, Ice Scream and Tom in London do not trade under those names, they can say what they like without ever being judged.
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Kay Denney wrote:
After all, Ice Scream and Tom in London do not trade under those names, they can say what they like without ever being judged.
Yeah, right…😂😂
I would agree that no clients trawl this site expecting exemplary behaviour. But if I myself had something I needed doing, I have a very clear idea who I would and would not ask in each pair…
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