Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Gravedad de hormigón

English translation:

conventional concrete gravity dam

Added to glossary by John Cutler
Feb 18, 2009 11:56
15 yrs ago
Spanish term

Gravedad de hormigón

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering
Really I'm looking for help with the ENTIRE PHRASE below, but I wasn't allowed to enter such a long term.

The context is a dam building construction project:

Presa de … (España). Gravedad de hormigón
convencional con planta recta y variante en curva.
Proposed translations (English)
5 +3 conventional concrete gravity dam
4 Please see below:

Discussion

John Cutler (asker) Feb 18, 2009:
Sorry, in my question it looks like two terms but this is all one term. The entire term is Gravedad de hormigon convencional con planta recta y variante de curva. It's one honking long name! : )
tazdog (X) Feb 18, 2009:
John, please post it as another question, as per the rules: one term or expression per question. Thanks.
John Cutler (asker) Feb 18, 2009:
Ok, but... I still need "con planta recta y variante en curva"

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): presa de Gravedad de hormigón convencional
Selected

conventional concrete gravity dam

It's "presa de gravedad".

From IATE:

es
Término presa de gravedad
Fiabilidad 3 (Fiable)
Fte. térm. VEI 602-2-6;ICOLD,Dic Tec Presas 1978
Fecha 24/09/2003

en
Definición a dam constructed of concrete and/or masonry which relies on its weight for stability
Fte. definición IEV 602-2-6

Término gravity dam
Fiabilidad 3 (Fiable)
Fte. térm. IEV 602-2-6
Fecha 24/09/2003

A gravity dam is made from concrete or masonry, or sometimes both. It is called a gravity dam because gravity holds it down to the ground stopping the water in the reservoir pushing it over.
http://www.britishdams.org/about_dams/gravity.htm

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Note added at 5 hrs (2009-02-18 17:14:41 GMT)
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"Planta recta" would be a straight ground plan; not real sure about the "variante de curva"--curved bypass? The meanings I know for variante are diversion or bypass, and in the quick look I had through Google to see how variante is used with "presa", they all seem to refer to bypasses (road). I don't have time to look more because I've got work of my own.

You may still want to post "variante de curva" as its own question (it really is) because you may get more responses.

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Note added at 18 hrs (2009-02-19 06:35:08 GMT)
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The "variante en curva" thing has been bugging me. Here are two more ideas for you:

- If your dam has already been built, did you try Googling it (especially with an image search) to see if you can find pictures of it? That might shed some light on whether it's a bypass or not. Google Earth is also a good way of getting a look at it.

- Another possibility, if your dam hasn't been built yet and they're just talking about the design (you said "construction project", but bear in mind that "proyecto" can also mean "design" in a construction context), is that variante could refer to the ground plan:

***a straight ground plan with an alternative/alternate curved ground plan***

Robb's dictionary for engineers gives "alternate" as a possibility for variante (referring to specifications), and IATE has "alternative" or "option" with the definition: one of the different solutions which meet the same objectives.

In any case, you may need to check with the client to make sure.
Peer comment(s):

agree psicutrinius : That's it. The original should have included a comma between "gravedad" and "hormigón".
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agree Christopher Lane
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agree Nikki Graham : Not sure about the variante either, but I think the "con planta recta" just means it's a straight gravity dam (as opposed to a curved one). Perhaps the variante refers to some kind of bypass/relief dam
1 day 6 hrs
yes, I think the straight ground plan thing does mean a straight gravity dam. The more I think about the variante, the more I think it may refer to an alternate design (i.e., a curved dam), but there's no way of knowing with the info. provided.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks Cindy!"
13 hrs

Please see below:

Gravedad de hormigon :"Concrete gravity (dam)"

The rest of the description may refer to a straight floor plan with a curved arch:

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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-02-19 01:51:41 GMT)
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Saludos :))

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2009-02-19 17:16:50 GMT)
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Peer comment(s):

neutral tazdog (X) : I don't think "variante" can refer to an arch--in Spain at least, I've always seen "arco" used. // In your examples, it means "variation", not "arch".
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