Feb 16, 2012 16:26
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Spanish term

cinta asfaltatica

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Automotive / Cars & Trucks
I'm not a technical translator, but this came up today in a job I'm working on for an insurance company, as part of the list of payments the company is expected to make:

PAGO DE DAÑOS AL VEHICULO POR CAUSA DE PLACAS METALICAS SOBREPUESTAS SOBRE LA CINTA ASFALTATICA QUE DAÑAN CARTER Y SE DESVIELA EL MOTOR DAÑOS Y PERJUICIOS INTERESES GASTOS Y COSTAS

I´ve gathered that the "cárter" is the crankcase that covers the motor, and that these metal plates have uncovered the motor, but what is the "cinta asfaltatica"? is that just the road? (and is it a typo for "cinta asfaltica"?) or is it actually a part of the car? Google images is just gives pictures of asphalt roads.

Thank you in advance, this is not my specialty at all! :)

Discussion

Laura Kiernan (asker) Feb 17, 2012:
ha! I love it, thank you Mike! I will definitely take that into account. All the best -
Mike Sadler (X) Feb 17, 2012:
More thoughts I've been washing the dishes after lunch and I always think well while I'm washing dishes so...
I went back to the original post. Crankcases are usually made of aluminum alloy and are very tough. Sumps are usually made of sheet steel and are much easier to poke a hole in. So... if it was metal debris on the road that caused the problem in the first place it was more likely to be a sump than a crankcase.
As you know, a con-rod in Spanish is a biela, so desvielarse must be to "de-conrodify", hence "throw a rod"!!
This reminds me of endless trouble I once had with "vatería". It had a double typo, and should have been beatería, and it took a cleverer person than me to work it out...
Laura Kiernan (asker) Feb 17, 2012:
PS. I also think it is a particularly Mexican term, because the Spanish friends I consulted (I live in Spain) hadn't heard the term "desvielar"
Laura Kiernan (asker) Feb 17, 2012:
Mike, thanks so much! And don't apologize for getting geeky, the best Proz discussions are the geekiest ones!! (I have to say I felt rather shamefaced when I asked my father if he knew what a crankcase was, and he said "of course!" ha! ... seems like I am living up to my female gender stereotypes in this case!) :) All the best -
Mike Sadler (X) Feb 17, 2012:
What a good thought Yes, Laura. On reflection it seems likely to me that desvielar is slangy, and I apologise for missing its register. This being so, your rendering of "throw a rod" is perfect. They really do throw them and they sometimes smash their way out of the engine, destroying it.
Don't worry about crankcase or sump or oil pan, they all effectively mean the same: they're the case that keeps the oil in and the muck out, underneath the crankshaft. The rods (British mechanics often call them con-rods, short for connecting rods) attach to the crankshaft. Getting seriously geeky now. Sorry!
Laura Kiernan (asker) Feb 17, 2012:
This really is like a whole new world for me, thanks so much everyone. (I've done lots of accounting and insurance stuff but have never had such technical stuff on the automobile.) Mike - would you consider "desvielar" to be slang as well? I gathered that it was more of a slangy term used mainly in Mexico to mean throw a rod or the engine seized up or the engine is shot or some such. If so, then I would want to keep the slangy nature in English, but if not, I would want to use the more technical phrase you suggested. Also, is "carter" then not "crankcase" (that´s what I had found it as)? but rather "oil pan" or "sump" ? In either case it sounds like the poor guy is without a car!! Thanks again everyone for the advice.
Mike Sadler (X) Feb 16, 2012:
It's just occurred to me... that since you're not a specialist, Laura, you may not know that "throwing a rod" is slang and in your document you may be better off with the more po-faced "suffered connecting rod damage".
In the UK the oil pan is called the sump, but it's just as eski puts it. Sump damaged, oil lost, massive engine damage, huge repair bill. It can be enough to write an old car off.
eski Feb 16, 2012:
Hi Laura, That's right-the damage to the oil pan (Carter) would cause the oil to leak and consequently, engine failure. Throwing a rod would be typical.
Hi from Acapulco,}
eski
Laura Kiernan (asker) Feb 16, 2012:
Thanks to everyone who has commented so far; I really appreciate it! I´ve also figured out that "se desviela el motor" actually means that the engine throws a rod (not that it was somehow uncovered - I was misreading "desvielar" as a typo for "desvelar"). Anyway - thanks again!

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road surface

That isn't to say that any of the three alternatives already offered would not be perfectly adequate as in my view they are, but if it were me doing the translation I'd go with this.
Wikipedia seems to agree. I've referenced it below.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I went with this one as it sounded best in my text, but all of the other answers could have worked as well. A very big thank you especially to Mike and eski for your help in the discussion! "
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asphalt road surface


should be asfáltica not asfaltatica

Asphalt road surface should be smooth | TheGazette
thegazette.com/2011/10/16/asphalt-road-surface-should-be-smooth/
16 Oct 2011 – I am writing regarding the new asphalt road surface on First Avenue between Collins Road NE and 40th Street NE. One would think that a ...
Road Surfacing - HTMA
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asphalt (strip)

Asphalt Mildura - Laying Next Asphalt Strip Video 6.mov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM59TnENNGg

asphalt strip
http://tiny.cc/zamo8

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Just to add that "strip" is in brackets as "asphalt strip" is technically what it is and would be fine if the context was to do with paving, but "asphalt" alone in your context is enough and, of course, other answers proposed here are fine in the given context too.
Peer comment(s):

agree Wendy Streitparth : just what I wanted to say
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Thanks, Wendy
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Asphalt road/pavement

Asphalt road/pavement

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"Cinta" in this context is used like "ribbon of highway". The damage to the oil pan (Carter) is attributed to the metallic plates attached to the asphalt road.

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www.miamidade.gov/wasd/library/Donation/part-3/02765.pdfFil... Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
This section consists of pavement markings and traffic signs on the Drawings, ... Reflective markers shall be installed in the pavement in accordance with ... Any portions of the stripes damaged by passing traffic or from other causes shall be ... requirements, asphalt shall have been in place for 30 days before application of ...
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PAVEMENT MARKING SPECIFICATION-Revised 9/00
www.arlingtontx.gov/.../SECT15 - Pvm't Markings.pdfFil... Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
pavement markings of the types, colors, shapes, sizes, widths, and thickness shown on the ... use of pans, aprons or similar appliances, which the die overruns, will not be ... Pavement Markings and Markers," of this specification except for measurement ..... conform to the requirements of "Asphalts, Oils and Emulsions," and ...
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Chip Sealing:
www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/mtag/ch5_chip_seals.pdfFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
binder (normally asphalt rubber) is applied, followed by a layer of aggregate, and rolling. ... Generally, chip seals are not used on roads with AADT > 40000. ..... same in a SAM or SAMI to avoid damage to the membrane due to pick-up by the ..... The weight of the carpet and oil, pan and oil, or geotextile material and oil is ...

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eski :))

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multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?mwsId...fn=IF5-7...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
Stamark tapes are durable, reflective pavement marking tapes used to mark asphalt and ... on new asphalt or as an overlay marking on most asphalt and concrete .... 5-way Penetrant, WD-40™ or equivalent light oil ... water to clean and lubricate the steel drums during ... vehicles without surface damage, the road may be ...
road: Definition, Synonyms from Answers.com
www.answers.com › Library › Literature & Languageroad n. ( Abbr. Rd. ) An open, generally public way for the passage of vehicles, ... durable method for building roads, and asphalt and concrete also began to be used. ..... Autobahn, the Trans-Canada Highway, and the Pan-American Highway. ..... Crash barriers, Raised pavement markers, and other forms of Road

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Thanks for your comment, Laura: I thought Mike's answer was right on, too.
Hi from Mexico,
eski :))
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