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Glossary entry

Russian term or phrase:

формальное вероисповедание

English translation:

canonical/conventional

Added to glossary by Maria Sometti (Anishchankava)
Jun 28, 2011 07:06
12 yrs ago
Russian term

формальное вероисповедание

Russian to English Other Religion Protestant Reformation
The information is from protestanti.ru, about how the word "Protestant" came into use:
"немецкие князья выразили протест на церковном соборе в Спирее в 1529 году против ФОРМАЛЬНОГО ВЕРОИСПОВЕДАНИЯ, продажи индульгенций и покупки церковных должностей. "
"German princes protested at the Diet of Speyer in 1529 against the FORMAL CONFESSION OF FAITH (?), the sale of indulgences, and the purchasing of church offices."
Proposed translations (English)
4 canonical/conventional
4 verbal/express confession of faith
4 (formal) profession of faith
Change log

Jun 28, 2011 07:08: Angelina Kovaleva changed "Restriction Fields" from "specialty" to "none"

Jun 29, 2011 16:20: Maria Sometti (Anishchankava) Created KOG entry

Discussion

Angelina Kovaleva (asker) Jun 29, 2011:
Yes, I meant "serious in their profession,"it's been a long night with almost no sleep. Thanks for your concern, but unless you are going to post something actually related to the term I proposed (which I've now closed), then please refrain from making any more comments. If you'd like to continue this discussion, feel free to e-mail me.
MariyaN (X) Jun 29, 2011:
Being "serious" does not necessarily involve paying for an online community membership. I have been serious with my translation work for many years without even being aware of ProZ network existence. I understand your point, it's just it seems to be a strange way to separate the wheat from the chaff. But then again, you do it your way.
And by saying "serious in there profession" you mean "serious in their profession"?
Angelina Kovaleva (asker) Jun 29, 2011:
MariyaN: The point in my choosing to limit those who could answer to paying members, is because there are A LOT of non-paying people using this site, and I wanted only those who are serious in there profession to answer. Limiting to payers only is a good way to do this.
Angelina Kovaleva (asker) Jun 29, 2011:
Thank you for all of your feedback in the discussion, it was all useful in helping me to make a decision.
MariyaN (X) Jun 29, 2011:
It's always up to the Asker to set specific criteria for those who can answer his/her questions, but I personally just don't see the connection between paid membership and language proficiency. Not to mention that making paid membership a condition for answering a help question does make it look like the Asker considers answering his/her question to be a privilege that is worth paying for. Which looks, let's say, not nice.
Sona Petrosyan Jun 29, 2011:
Angelina: You're welcome, I'm glad if I could help
Angelina Kovaleva (asker) Jun 28, 2011:
Misha: You are free to post something in the discussion entry if you like.
Angelina Kovaleva (asker) Jun 28, 2011:
Sona: Thank you very much, I will consider your suggestion.
The Misha Jun 28, 2011:
Boy, do I have an answer for you! But I am not a member. You know, some of us here choose not to be.
Sona Petrosyan Jun 28, 2011:
Though not a member, please consider if you like religious formalism
http://www.google.am/search?q=religious formalism&ie=utf-8&o...

Proposed translations

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Selected

canonical/conventional

Thing is that формальный means something STANDARD/CANONICAL, not in general but to the year 1529. Thus, German princes protested against canonical or conventional view and perception of religion. It officially happened in 1529, when protestantism was adopted by many European countries. They were postesting against intermediation of church between God and a single person as well as against the belief that personal wealth is a diabolic manifestation and only the modest and the poor will reach God's paradise and benediciton.

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Note added at 54 mins (2011-06-28 08:01:41 GMT)
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P.S. A very interesting source on this subject can be Alan Beattie's False economy.
Example sentence:

http://new-church.ru/protestantizm-v-rossii

http://mb-soft.com/believe/trc/protesta.htm

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4 hrs

verbal/express confession of faith

формальное here means 'express', 'verbal', so that everybody knows that you believe

I would use 'verbal' here
Reference:

http://books.google.com.ua/books?id=5NIV9lhIXx8C&pg=PA111&dq=%22verbal+confession+of%22&hl=ru&ei=bbYJTqrzLIjHswbk-LGoDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&

http://books.google.com.ua/books?id=Rrw-AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA722&dq=%22express+confession+of%22&hl=ru&ei=vrYJToXzB8zQsgapwqXqDg&sa=X&oi=book_result

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(formal) profession of faith

I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for.
Synod 2011 decided on Monday night that baptized children will no longer be required to make a formal profession of faith before they can.. http://www.crcna.org/news.cfm?newsid=2788§ion=1
In its recommendations, the Faith Formation Committee said that a formal Profession of Faith prior to participation in the Lord's Supper "is ...http://theaquilareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view...
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