Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Sakrallandschaft
English translation:
concentration of religious architecture
Added to glossary by
philgoddard
Jun 17, 2014 13:59
9 yrs ago
German term
Sakrallandschaft
German to English
Art/Literary
Archaeology
"9 Kirchen und 1 Dom zeugen von einer beeindruckenden Sakrallandschaft"
This is part of a description of Bardowick in Northern Germany, which was an important city in the High Middle Ages.
It's not quite "sacred landscape". I know exactly what they mean, but I can't quite get my brain to get the right expression down to my tongue. Can anyone help?
It's from a fascinating PowerPoint presentation about the ancient city.
TIA
Jaime
This is part of a description of Bardowick in Northern Germany, which was an important city in the High Middle Ages.
It's not quite "sacred landscape". I know exactly what they mean, but I can't quite get my brain to get the right expression down to my tongue. Can anyone help?
It's from a fascinating PowerPoint presentation about the ancient city.
TIA
Jaime
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +4 | concentration of religious architecture | philgoddard |
3 +3 | sacral landscape | Berit Kostka, PhD |
4 | ecclesiastical landscape | Helen Shiner |
References
Norwich, England | Kate Collyer |
Change log
Aug 25, 2014 00:56: philgoddard Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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45 mins
Selected
concentration of religious architecture
I'd turn it round and say there is an impressive concentration of religious architecture, with nine churches and a cathedral.
Peer comment(s):
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Nicole Schnell
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Elisabeth Kissel
: I think this is a really good solution, even if it sounds more neutral and not quite as pretentious as the original
8 hrs
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Lancashireman
: Buildings tend to intrude on the landscape (at least in the traditional sense of the word).
8 hrs
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neutral |
Helen Shiner
: This misses the shaping of the landscape by the church or the configuration of those buildings/landscape elements, which I think is meant here.
8 hrs
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agree |
Craig Meulen
: I might disagree with Helen and would generally support a suggestion without the word "landscape". See my discussion comment.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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21 mins
sacral landscape
Some of these sources use that term in the context you are working with, just for different time periods.
http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter.jsf?bid=CBO9780511496493...
https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/handle/1842/2671
http://www.brepols.net/Pages/ShowProduct.aspx?prod_id=IS-978...
http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter.jsf?bid=CBO9780511496493...
https://www.era.lib.ed.ac.uk/handle/1842/2671
http://www.brepols.net/Pages/ShowProduct.aspx?prod_id=IS-978...
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Though I think it does sound slightly pretentious, particularly if this is for a general readership.
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Thank you Phil, I guess the same goes for the German a wee bit... :o)
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Sabine Reynaud
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Thanks Sabine :o)
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beermatt
: yes, sounds pretentious, but so does the German -- I mean for fxxxs sake, "SAKRALLANDSCHAFT"... Someone is really dedicated to sell this architectural ensemble to the Believers, arent they?
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Thank you :o)
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Helen Shiner
: This tends to encompass pre-Christian or pagan elements in the landscape. While fine in itself, it goes beyond the requirements of this context which refers very specifically to a Christianised landscape.
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ecclesiastical landscape
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Archaeology-Ecclesiastical-Lands...
http://scholar.harvard.edu/joeymcmullen/publications/rewriti...
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/242574023_Death_and_...
http://scholar.harvard.edu/joeymcmullen/publications/rewriti...
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/242574023_Death_and_...
Peer comment(s):
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Craig Meulen
: From the one sentence the asker provided I'm unsure whether a more abstract solution might be better - see my discussion coment.
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This is archaeology, but regardless of that 'landscape' is used in an abstract way in EN academia, too. I read this as not literal, which is why for me the more descriptive option suggested by Phil would not be my choice, for instance.
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Reference comments
1 day 10 hrs
Reference:
Norwich, England
place of many churches!
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2014-06-19 00:53:03 GMT)
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the particularly relevant phrases being "abundance of churches" in the first one, and "ecclesiastical set" in the second
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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2014-06-19 00:53:03 GMT)
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the particularly relevant phrases being "abundance of churches" in the first one, and "ecclesiastical set" in the second
Discussion
What about 'Its 6 churches and 1 Dom bear witness to the city's significant religious importance in the Middle Ages'?
Apparently the city became the religious centre of the area at some point during the middle ages. Maybe wait for the remainder of your presentation to gather information and the decide on a term?
I think you need to paraphrase it, Germans tend to become too lyrical for their own good sometimes.
Again, I don't think they're referring to any particular physical area.
Thanks for your suggestion!