French term
branches latérales
I am translating the bylaws of a foundation setting out how the funds are to be inherited.
It says, 'En aucun cas ne devront bénéficier les branches latérales par rapport à moi et à mes descendants et non plus les maris et femmes des 3e et 4e bénéficiaires.'
Does 'branches latérales' essentially mean 'spouses' and if so, how can that be given that the donor has appointed his spouse as a beneficiary?
Thank you in advance.
| 3 +4 | Collateral relative |
Yassine El Bouknify
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| 4 +2 | collateral line/s |
Adrian MM.
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| 4 -6 | relatives* |
Bartosz Pelka
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Proposed translations
Poland
Translator since 2006 into PL/EN
Native in: Polish 
, English 
Works in: English to Polish, Polish to English, Chinese to Polish, and 15 more.
relatives*
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Tony M
: That is not precise enough for this particular context.
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So find sth better instead of posting negative ratings and disrespecting my input
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Yvonne Gallagher
: When something is wrong, it's wrong. You are disrespecting a native speaker's input
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Jennifer Levey
: As an amateur genealogist and native English-speaker, I can assure you that this is not a valid answer to Asker's question.
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AllegroTrans
: As an amateur genealogist and native English-speaker, I can also assure you that this is simply wrong. Nobody is "disrespecting your output" - six of us simply say your answer is wrong. That is how this forum works.
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Daryo
: The way it works: if you got it wrong, whoever disagrees has only to show why you got it wrong - NOTHING ELSE. "What is then your answer?" is NOT a proof that you got it right.
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Conor McAuley
: Totally agree with AT and Daryo -- accept the unwritten code of the community or just go away.
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Morocco
Literature,Marketing & Legal Translation
Native in: Arabic (Variants: Kuwaiti, Najdi, Standard-Arabian (MSA), Hassaniya, Moroccan, UAE) , Berber (Other) (Variants: Tashelhit , Riffian, Central Atlas Tamazight, Tamazight , Standard Moroccan Tamazight, Tarifit )
Works in: English to Arabic, French to Arabic, Arabic to English, and 21 more.
Collateral relative
Simply put, a collateral relative is a family member who is not your direct ancestor or descendant. Some examples include:
Siblings
Aunts and unclesNieces and nephewsCousins of various kindsSiblings of your grandparents (great-uncles and -aunts) and other ancestors
Your ancestors’ in-laws, step-siblings, step-children, other spouses, and any adopted family members might also be considered collateral relatives.
https://familytreemagazine.com/general-genealogy/collateral-...
| Thank you so much, Yassine. That's really helpful! |
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Yvonne Gallagher
: Yes, indirect or non-lineal descendants or heirs
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thank you, Yvonne
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Jennifer Levey
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thank you, Jennifer
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AllegroTrans
: A branche latérale is not a relative but a line containing relatives, e.g. all the people in a downward line from my first cousin; each of these are my collateral relatives in that particular line
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Certainly. As a side note, it's rather remarkable that he concluded the query without rewarding points
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Conor McAuley
: Aye https://familytreemagazine.com/general-genealogy/collateral-...
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Daryo
: clear and convincing explanations.
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Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
collateral line/s
A collateral line in a family tree, or genealogy, is the line of descendants of a collateral ancestor. These people are related to us genealogically and often times, genetically. We are not descended from the collateral lines of our family tree.
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Jennifer Levey
: This is a more-appropriate rendering incorporating 'collateral' than that proposed by Yassine, in Asker's specific context.
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Merci and gracias, thanks. My answer will stand for posterity, rather than the ungrateful and 'diplomatic' non-grading consumption of an asker .
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AllegroTrans
: Yes, but it is a real pity you find it necessary to make these pompous statements (Say it right or join my Eng. Bar Probate class)
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Thanks, Chris. Keep your fingers crossed anyway that I land the job. If I do, I look forward to seeing a sprinkling of non-supercilious translators and interpreters in attendance and paying rapt, non-antagonist attention.
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