Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Abwiegen der Verdampfereinwaage

English translation:

weighing (out) of the inital weight added to the vaporiser

Added to glossary by Marga Shaw
Jul 11, 2009 14:40
14 yrs ago
German term

Abwiegen der Verdampfereinwaage

German to English Science Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng X-Ray panel coating
Anschließend kann dieses Selen zum ***Abwiegen der Verdampfereinwaage*** für die Bedampfung von XRAY-Panels verwendet werden.

Wie ist das zu verstehen? Wer kennt sich damit aus?
Danke!
Change log

Jul 26, 2009 08:40: Marga Shaw Created KOG entry

Jul 26, 2009 08:40: Marga Shaw changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/854608">Marga Shaw's</a> old entry - "Abwiegen der Verdampfereinwaage"" to ""... weighing (out) of the inital weight added to the vaporiser""

Discussion

Marga Shaw Jul 15, 2009:
@ Johannes Nichts für ungut, aber m. E. ist LEO als Quelle auf dem Gebiet der Chemie letztlich nicht maßgeblich.
Johannes Gleim Jul 15, 2009:
Einwaage or Auswaage @ Cilian
output weight [tech.] die Auswaage
resulting weight [tech.] die Auswaage
weigh-out quantity [tech.] die Auswaage
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

Ein|waa|ge, die; - (Kaufmannsspr.): 1. Gewicht des Inhalts einer Konserve od. abgepackten Ware. 2. beim Auswiegen ...
http://www.duden.de/definition/einwaage

Aus dieser Mischprobe werden mindestens 100 g (Wiegegenauigkeit 0,1 Gramm) in einem geeigneten Trocknungsbehälter (Aluschale) eingewogen, anschließend mindestens 12 Stunden in einem Trockenschrank mit Luftumwälzung bei 103° C getrocknet und danach zurückgewogen. Die Einwaage und Auswaage sowie der Name des Ermittlers sind in geeigneter Weise (auf dem Wiegeschein, durch Ausdruck der Probenwaage oder EDV-Erfassung) zu dokumentieren.
http://www.holzhandel.de/gewichtsholzvereinbarung.html
Bernd Runge Jul 13, 2009:
Ich glaube, dass es hier einfach um das Abwiegen, oder Auswiegen durch Selen-Zugabe (Herstellen der spezifizierten (evtl. anteiligen) Gewichtsproportionen) des Verdampferinhalts, also weighing (out) of evaporator contents, geht.
Sicherlich ist der übergeordnete Kontext die schon von Zareh angeführte PVD of flat-panel X-ray detectors, oder?
Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. Jul 12, 2009:
PVD I have not done this myself, but I spent some 8 years in a department where PVD and sputtering + deposition were done routinely ( I was in the theory section). PVD = evaporation + deposition. (Physical vapor deposition).

Proposed translations

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... weighing (out) of the inital weight added to the vaporiser


This selenium can be subsequently used to weigh the initial weight added to the vaporiser for the vapour deposition on X-ray panels.

This is how I would have rendered this sentence using the following information:

abwiegen - to weigh (out) (as provided by Dr, Darakjian above and Langenscheidts Fachörterbuch Chemie und chemische Technik)
Verdampfer - vaporiser, evaporator (I prefer vaporiser in this context) Source: Langenscheidt as above.
Einwaage - Abgewogene Probenmenge, mit der z. B. eine Reaktion oder eine quant. Analyse durchgeführt wird - initial weight (Römpp Chemie Lexikon).

e.g.:
The purpose of this program it to study methods for the vapor deposition of .... large amounts to decompose without ever leaving the vaporizer. ... (a) weigh into a round bottom flask of known tare the quantity of ... From the initial carbon weight, final carbon weight and weight of CuAA used, the ...
handle.dtic.mil/100.2/AD861455









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Vapor deposition of hardened niobium. Document Type and Number: ..... The initial weight of vaporizer 19 and its charge was 1116.0 grams and the cooling ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4380556.html



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Vapor deposition of hardened niobium. Document Type and Number: ..... The initial weight of vaporizer 19 and its charge was 1116.0 grams and the cooling ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4380556.html

used for preparing thin solid films: vapour deposition (Lee 1956), .... selenium is constant for a constant initial weight of Se/Sn alloy, which is equal to ...
www.iop.org/EJ/article/0022-3727/4/12/323/jdv4i12p1991.pdf
Peer comment(s):

neutral Johannes Gleim : output weight [tech.] die Auswaage http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType... It does not deal with "Auswaage", but "Einwaage".
2 days 16 hrs
Ich kann nicht sehen, wo ich sinngemäß "Auswaage" gebraucht haben soll. Abwiegen = to weigh (out) (nach Langenscheidts chem. Fachwörterbuch); Einwaage = initial weight (nach Römpp Chemie Lexikon); beide zuverl.; ansonsten verweise ich auf meine Antwort.
agree Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. : Now, I see where I may have gone wrong. I now agree with Marga and Cilian that it is the "initial weight"... not the weight after vaporization. // Welcome, Marga.. you are definitely sane!
2 days 19 hrs
Thank you very much, Zareh! I almost started to doubt my own sanity.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Marga, this is definitely the better choice ;)"
2 hrs

weighting the evaporated mass

weighing das Abwiegen
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

weighing das Abwiegen
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

mass die Einwaage
initial weight die Einwaage
net weight die Einwaage
weighted sample [chem.] die Einwaage
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...

to evaporate (sth.) (etw.) verdampfen | verdampfte, verdampft |
to exhale from verdampfen | verdampfte, verdampft |
to vaporizeAE
to vaporiseBE also: vaporizeBE verdampfen | verdampfte, verdampft |
to volatilizeAE
to volatiliseBE also: volatilizeBE verdampfen | verdampfte, verdampft |
to boil away verdampfen lassen
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=wlqAU.&search=verdampfen

Peer comment(s):

agree Zareh Darakjian Ph.D. : I agree... I do not, in fact, think that there is any special "technical/scientific" term for this. The important thing is that we probably are talking about physical vapor deposition on a substrate. Other methods would include "sputtering" + deposition.
2 hrs
Thank you, also for the reference.
disagree Cilian O'Tuama : can't see where "evaporated" comes from, and where there's an einwaage, there's often an auswaage - you draw no distinction// Verdampfereinwaage to me suggests the (initial) weight of a substance being introduced into an evaporator.
20 hrs
Evaporated stands for "Verdampfte" (Einwaage). I would avoid redundancies as with the German text and used mass instead of "weighted sample". OK?
agree robin25
3 days 19 hrs
Thank you!
disagree Bernd Runge : Siehe meinen Diskussionsbeitrag. Könntest du deine Referenzen nicht ein wenig kontextrelevanter gestallten? LEO als Quelle? Wie wär's mit einem aussagekräftigen Paralleltext, an dem man ableiten kann, was gemeint ist?
3 days 21 hrs
Statt so harsch zu reagieren, würd ich lieber einen eigenen Vorschlag machen. Im übrigen handelt es sich um durchaus geläufige Begriffe, für die auch LEO herangezogen werden kann. Zu weighting out siehe meinen Beitrag.
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Reference comments

4 hrs
Reference:

A reference that might help in understanding the context - physical vapor deposition

http://www.siliconfareast.com/sputtering.htm

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Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) is a process by which a thin film of material is deposited on a substrate according to the following sequence of steps: 1) the material to be deposited is converted into vapor by physical means; 2) the **vapor** is transported across a region of low pressure from its source to the substrate; and 3) the vapor undergoes condensation on the substrate to form the thin film. In VLSI fabrication, the most widely-used method of accomplishing PVD of thin films is by sputtering.

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Sputtering is a mechanism by which atoms are dislodged from the surface of a material as a result of collision with high-energy particles. Thus, PVD by Sputtering is a term used to refer to a physical vapor deposition (PVD) technique wherein atoms or molecules are ejected from a target material by high-energy particle bombardment so that the ejected atoms or molecules can condense on a substrate as a thin film. Sputtering has become one of the most widely used techniques for depositing various metallic films on wafers, including aluminum, aluminum alloys, platinum, gold, TiW, and tungsten.



Sputtering as a deposition technique may be described as a sequence of these steps: 1) ions are generated and directed at a target material; 2) the ions sputter atoms from the target; 3) the sputtered atoms get transported to the substrate through a region of reduced pressure; and 4) the sputtered atoms condense on the substrate, forming a thin film.

Sputtering offers the following advantages over other PVD methods used in VLSI fabrication:
1) Sputtering can be achieved from large-size targets, simplifying the deposition of thins with unifrom thickness over large wafers;
2) Film thickness is easily controlled by fixing the operating parameters and simply adjusting the deposition time;
3) Control of the alloy composition, as well as other film properties such as step coverage and grain structure, is more easily accomplished than by deposition through evaporation;
4) Sputter-cleaning of the substrate in vacuum prior to film deposition can be done;
5) Device damage from X-rays generated by electron beam evaporation is avoided.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Marga Shaw : I totally agree with what you are saying, but this is only one part of the question, and I still cannot get my head around the answer provided above by J.G.
14 hrs
Thank you, Marga. I think: "abwiegen = weigh out", and "verdampfer = evaporated. Also PVD involves evaporation + deposition (the weighing is optional, of course). I also think "Einwaage = contents, literally, but here it is "mass".
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