Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
die reine Lehre
English translation:
pure doctrine, in the abstract, true teachings/traditions, conventional wisdom, fundamentals of
Added to glossary by
Jonathan MacKerron
Feb 21, 2004 13:04
20 yrs ago
German term
Retired as of Jan 2019!
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
die reine Lehre
German to English
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Linguistics
I have no specific context here, simply a discussion with a fellow translator about what this might translate as in specific cases.
In general, I take it to mean theory versus practice, but depending on the context also things like "conventional wisdom". I've not found it in any bilingual dictionary, so would appreciate any specific entries/examples you all might be able to offer in this regard.
Thanks
In general, I take it to mean theory versus practice, but depending on the context also things like "conventional wisdom". I've not found it in any bilingual dictionary, so would appreciate any specific entries/examples you all might be able to offer in this regard.
Thanks
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | the pure doctrine |
Alarch Gwyn
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| 4 | the clean gauge |
ECP11
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| 4 | in the abstract |
gangels (X)
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| 4 | true teachings/tradition |
Mario Marcolin
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| 3 | siehe unten |
Mag. Sabine Senn
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Proposed translations
+2
5 mins
Selected
the pure doctrine
without any context at all
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Note added at 2004-02-21 15:48:44 (GMT)
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Often used in a religious sense in English. Maybe the German tends to be more widely used, more sarcastically perhaps (in the sense of the gospel truth). Can you give us any indication of what you are getting at?
Theory versus practice would certainly be a possibility in some contexts.
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Note added at 2004-02-21 15:49:41 (GMT)
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Often used in a religious sense in English. Maybe the German tends to be more widely used, more sarcastically perhaps (in the sense of the gospel truth). Can you give us any indication of what you are getting at?
Theory versus practice would certainly be a possibility in some contexts.
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Note added at 2004-02-21 15:48:44 (GMT)
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Often used in a religious sense in English. Maybe the German tends to be more widely used, more sarcastically perhaps (in the sense of the gospel truth). Can you give us any indication of what you are getting at?
Theory versus practice would certainly be a possibility in some contexts.
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Note added at 2004-02-21 15:49:41 (GMT)
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Often used in a religious sense in English. Maybe the German tends to be more widely used, more sarcastically perhaps (in the sense of the gospel truth). Can you give us any indication of what you are getting at?
Theory versus practice would certainly be a possibility in some contexts.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
desiderata (X)
: What the experts promulgate from ivory towers. See also www.dimagb.de/info/bauphys/umwelt/egbeck1.html#pyromanie and www.die-neue-ordnung.de/Nr51999/RH.html.
10 hrs
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| agree |
Ellen Zittinger
15 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks to all contributors, I've entered several solutions into the glossary."
45 mins
Mag. Sabine Senn
Works in field
Lecturer: University - College
Works in: English to German, German to English, Spanish to German, and 1 more.
siehe unten
im Bereich Universität bezieht sich *reine Lehre* darauf, dass nur Wissen vermittelt wird und nicht geforscht wird.
Es gibt auch den Ausdruck *reine Forschung* - ein Angestellter, der sich nur auf die Forschung konzentriert und kein Wissen vermittelt
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Note added at 2004-02-21 13:54:35 (GMT)
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« zurück zur Rubrik Wissen
hochschule
Wo bleibt die Lehre?
In der Elite-Debatte darf es nicht nur um Forschung gehen /Von Christian Bode
Von Von Christian Bode
Die Vorschläge zu deutschen ?Eliteuniversitäten? leiden fast alle an derselben Schieflage: Es geht nur um die (Spitzen-)Forschung, nicht um die Qualität der Lehre. Und es zählt nur der wissenschaftliche Nachwuchs und nicht das Gros der Absolventen. Dieser akademische ?Tunnelblick? entspricht den Wertvorstellungen der Zunft ebenso wie ihren Berufungskriterien und Gehaltstabellen: Reine Forschung ist Spitze (Max-Planck-Institute), reine Lehre ist allenfalls Breite (Fachhochschulen). ?Spitzenlehre? existiert nicht einmal als Begriff im Vokabular der Hochschulpolitik.
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www.wissenschaft-online.de/artikel/708669
2 hrs
the clean gauge
another possibility, if context is unknown
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Note added at 3 hrs 35 mins (2004-02-21 16:40:19 GMT)
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If I see this expression without any context, Anne Gillard-Groddeck\'s suggestion would be my first association: *pure doctrine*, puristic interpretation of the doctrine, orthodoxy, but certainly NOT *conventional wisdom*.
But if it is an example for a linguistic discussion, you\'d better consider ALL possible contexts :-))
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Note added at 3 hrs 35 mins (2004-02-21 16:40:19 GMT)
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If I see this expression without any context, Anne Gillard-Groddeck\'s suggestion would be my first association: *pure doctrine*, puristic interpretation of the doctrine, orthodoxy, but certainly NOT *conventional wisdom*.
But if it is an example for a linguistic discussion, you\'d better consider ALL possible contexts :-))
5 hrs
in the abstract
or everything being equal
but your 'conventional wisdom' may be best /
the fundamentals of...
but your 'conventional wisdom' may be best /
the fundamentals of...
1 day 36 mins
Mario Marcolin
Sweden
Sweden
Native in English
Sweden
Words are forever...
Native in: Swedish 
, English
Works in: English to Swedish, German to Swedish, French to Swedish, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
true teachings/tradition
"die reine Lehre""true teachings" is of course common in religions contexts, but note the nonreliguous:
"Dr. Feelgood trägt die reine Lehre des britischen Pubrock in die weite Welt29."
http://morgenpost.berlin1.de/inhalt/musik/story656112.html
"Dr. Feelgood trägt die reine Lehre des britischen Pubrock in die weite Welt29."
http://morgenpost.berlin1.de/inhalt/musik/story656112.html
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