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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

altengerechte Wohnung

English translation:

seniors' residence

Added to glossary by Veronika McLaren
Oct 31, 2009 11:35
14 yrs ago
German term

altengerechte Wohnung

German to English Social Sciences Architecture
Wieder einmal ein (neues) Bauprojekt: Es geht um die Erweiterung um ein Gebäude mit **altengerechten** Wohnungen.

Da weiss ich nicht wirklich weiter, auch wenn's für manchen native speaker vielleicht ? eine ganz simple Frage ist. Wie könnte ich dies (positiv besetzt) schreiben:
apartments adapted to the needs of elder people ?
apartments suitable for people in the retirement age

Hilfe wäre nett.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 seniors' residence
3 +6 apartments/flats for the elderly
5 +1 elderly-friendly flat/elder-friendly housing/flat with elder-friendly features/elder-friendly home
3 apartment / housing services / housing for older people
3 service flats
3 sheltered accommodation
Change log

Oct 31, 2009 13:46: writeaway changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Social Sciences"

Nov 11, 2009 18:11: Veronika McLaren Created KOG entry

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): writeaway

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Discussion

Helen Shiner Nov 2, 2009:
Elderly This is a perfectly acceptable term in relation to housing here in the UK and I don't agree that it is equivalent to handicapped in talking about disabled people. Seniors or senior citizens does, on the other hand, not work here.
dkfmmuc (asker) Nov 1, 2009:
** Soft-closing of this discussion ** @All: Thank you for all the valuable hints. Will take one of the suggested terms, so I may kindly want to "soft-close" this discussion.
Points will be awarded tomorrow as I have to think over the most applicable term.
dkfmmuc (asker) Nov 1, 2009:
@SpudMurphy: Thanks for the suggestion and link Thank you very much for the link.

@sivara: Absolutely interesting discussion. I remember the discussion in the context of a small shop in Germany (think it was Frankfurt/Main) who had no success at all due to the fact that noone wants to be described as belonging to this age group. After a rebranding (which I really didn't remember) the business was better according to a newspaper report.
Veronika McLaren Nov 1, 2009:
You got that right, sivara! That makes two of us seeing it that way.
Monika Elisabeth Sieger Nov 1, 2009:
@British Diana I think you are absolutely right. As we still do not know which kind of accomodation (to use a neutral trm here) is really meant, we all only have a guess. I still remeber the facial cream very well. I still think that is a very personal mattr on how one feels and how somebody describes himself in his very personal opinion.
And: no matter, on how you name this homes, a proper description cannot be given anyway. Some like them some not.
I am hopefully capable of living on my own together with my husband for a very long time and if you need such a place one day: The proper wording will then become the smallest problem you have.
British Diana Nov 1, 2009:
@sivara - and how much "Betreuung"? well, at least they didn't ask you to stop off at any of those homes...
Perhaps you are recalling the extensive discussion about that face cream which "women by their 50's" would want to start using - this raged on the KudoZ site about a month ago because people had different notions of how "delicately" the fact of being old(er) could be referred to.
However, before our Asker can decide on the term to use, he (or she - sorry, haven't checked) must decide on and preferably tell the Answerers what sort of accommodation the planners are envisaging - Is it more like "betreutes Wohnen" with some care facilities or is it just "barrierefrei".
Diana (elderly but not by a long chalk an O.A.P. yet - now that is REALLY old !)
Monika Elisabeth Sieger Nov 1, 2009:
Elderly is ok here in England After the discussion yesterday I had to go shopping in Guildford, Surrey and passed several nursing homes residential homes for the elderly etc. And they all had as at their entrance 'elderly' on the signs. I know that two of these places have simply normal flats where pensioners live on their own and do not need any care at all.
So I do not see any reason why 'elderly' seems to have a negative co-notation for some of us.
Kerstin Green Nov 1, 2009:
Agree with Diana, that is a very country-specific thing. I had this discussion previously and asked a lot of the local people here who are "50+" and no one had any problems with "elderly". I was also told that senior citizens only live in the US ;-)
British Diana Oct 31, 2009:
older people are - just older ..or perhaps elderly There seem to be different words used in different countries - elder(ly)-friendly in Singapore, seniors in the U.S.; however the asker wants BE and "older people" or "the elderly" seems to be the right option there.
Peter Downes Oct 31, 2009:
@dkffmuc click on http://www.seniorresource.com/house.htm. There are a number of explanations which could be of interest.
Jeanette Phillips Oct 31, 2009:
I agree with Spud Murphy; senior citizens sounds better than elderly, and it's not clear whether these are sheltered housing or purpose built dwellings.
Peter Downes Oct 31, 2009:
It also depends on the level of care provided, sheltered housing with an attendant warder / care person or the older citizens are left to their own devices - flats for senior citizens sounds more positive than being classed as "old".
dkfmmuc (asker) Oct 31, 2009:
UK Englisch wäre nett Grüße
Monika Elisabeth Sieger Oct 31, 2009:
Würde mich auch interessieren!
Kerstin Green Oct 31, 2009:
UK or US English ?

Proposed translations

+1
1 hr
Selected

seniors' residence

In Canada, in these residences all stages of care are available in most cases.
Peer comment(s):
agree gangels (X) : or 'for senior living'
20 mins
Thank you, gangels!
neutral Helen Shiner : Not appropriate for the UK unfortunately which is the target audience here.
1 day 21 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for your response. Really appreciated it. Due to the fact that I searched a positive description for the new construction this was my choice. Best regards"
9 mins

apartment / housing services / housing for older people

What they say in England:

Housing Needs of Older People - Stoke-on-Trent City Council
This report also explored whether the current levels of <B>housing for older people in the city</B> was suitable to meet the needs and aspirations of our older ...
www.stoke.gov.uk/redirect/?oid=[com...cms...

Leaders in care, health and <B>housing services for older people</B>.
Housing 21 provide care, health and housing services for older people. ... health and housing options, so whatever your needs, we can support you to have a ...
www.housing21.co.uk/

Corporation to examine the <B>housing and support needs of older people in rural</B> ... people and local service responses in five rural districts in England ...
www.york.ac.uk/inst/chp/publications/PDF/olderruralsum.pdf

Responding to the needs of older people resident in care homes ...
Birmingham Mail (England); April 10, 2008 ; 670 words . ... National homes provider Housing ... bedroom <B>apartments for older people</B>, with on-site ... will ...
www.highbeam.com/doc/1P3-1312305421.html

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Note added at 10 mins (2009-10-31 11:45:53 GMT)
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evtl. adding <B>accessible</B>
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11 mins

service flats

This term is commonly used over here & refer to flats for elderly people
Peer comment(s):
neutral writeaway : that is the Dutch terminology used in Belgium (and in Nl afaik). But in English they aren't necessarily for seniors.....
2 hrs
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+6
4 mins

apartments/flats for the elderly

or "retirement flats"
(flat is UK English, apartment is US)

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Note added at 7 mins (2009-10-31 11:42:35 GMT)
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If you want the focus on the fact that there are a lot of special features in the flats (like ground floor, stair lifts etc.) you could add "accessible". Although "accessible housing" can be for disabled people, as well. So "accessible housing for the elderly"?

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Note added at 12 mins (2009-10-31 11:48:05 GMT)
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Or, very modern "50+ Housing". There is actually a "50+ Housing Council" in the UK (http://www.nahb.org/generic.aspx?sectionID=1916&genericConte...
Note from asker:
Thank you for the proposal. Just wanted to write it in a more positive way. Have though about links like barrier-free, direct access, not hampered or something like that. Just searching for one term. Your proposal looks fine, will just have a look on the other versions. But I am impressed by this fast and high-quality answer. And this on a Saturday !
Peer comment(s):
agree Monika Elisabeth Sieger : then it is 'flats for the elderly' adn the idea of accessible housing for the elederly is very good as well as it makes it more positvie!
8 mins
thanks
agree Henry Schroeder : Yes, nice, without the verb
15 mins
thanks Henry
agree Ingeborg Gowans (X) : yes, accessible for the elderly is also a good option
53 mins
agree Rolf Keiser
1 hr
neutral writeaway : calling seniors 'elderly' is like calling people with disabilities 'handicapped'. /it may be used for expediency but should be avoided. People still use 'handicapped' too but that doesn't make it right.
2 hrs
Not quite true, it is widely used, in the 'respectable' media (Times, BBC) as well as by charities and organisations caring for older people. But I also suggested the 50+ for those who want to be 1000% PC...
agree Jutta Scherer : mit einer kleinen Ergänzung: "altersgerecht" heißt nicht, dass die Wohnungen spezielle für Alte gebaut werden/wurden. Ich würde daher sagen "flats suitable for elderly people".
2 days 4 hrs
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
2 days 19 hrs
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+1
1 hr

elderly-friendly flat/elder-friendly housing/flat with elder-friendly features/elder-friendly home

More elderly friendly flats are on the way
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=128462&mo...
Housing for Seniors: Elder-Friendly Housing
http://www.mcys.gov.sg/successful_ageing/report/Chapter 3 - ...
Under the Main Upgrading Project (MUP), the Housing Development
Board (HDB) upgrades sold flats with elder-friendly features such as grabbars in the bathroom / toilet and non-slip floor tiles.
http://www.mcys.gov.sg/successful_ageing/report/Chapter 3 - ...
An important design concept was to create a youth- to elder-friendly home that is safe, accessible, and comfortable for all the occupants
http://www.austinenergy.com/energy efficiency/programs/green...
Peer comment(s):
agree mary austria : Good options!
5 mins
Thank you, "mary austria"!
neutral writeaway : but the use of the word 'elderly' isn't advisable
1 hr
What the heck should be wrong with the word "elder" resp. "elderly", do you have a problem of becoming old? There are words widely used such as "elder statesman", etc. This is a proper word describing people in their senior age!
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2 hrs

sheltered accommodation

This may or may not be right depending on what is actually being offered! It's admittedly a bit of a woolly term, but one used a lot in the U.K. And it often means no more than there being a lift, an intercom to open the door and a warden on call in what is otherwise an ordinary block of flats.
Example sentence:

I'm having to find some sheltered accommodation for my Mum, she can't cope

Peer comment(s):
neutral Helen Shiner : Agree this may well be appropriate but we do not have enough context to say and it does not look as if we are going to get any more./Presume closing the discussion and not the question. Expect Asker will come back to us.
1 day 20 hrs
You're right there, it's always sad when help is not forthcoming. Do YOU know what "soft-closing" is ??
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