Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Handhabe
English translation:
knob / handle
Added to glossary by
Wendy Streitparth
Jun 18, 2014 07:59
9 yrs ago
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German term
Handhabe
German to English
Art/Literary
Archaeology
This is a title in a list of matters that need to be documented in relation to archaeological finds for a medieval settlement in Northern Germany.
The list includes the following:
Verzierung (Anordnung, Lage und Orientierung)
Mündungsdurchmesser
Bodendurchmesser
Mittlere Wandstärke
Gewicht in g
Handhabe (Lage, Orientierung)
Randform
Bodenform
Gefäßform
Ausgussform
Standvorrichtung
Magerung (Korngröße, Verteilung, Art)
Brandhärte (nach Mohs)
Brandart
Oberflächenstruktur
Oberflächenbehandlung
Oberflächenauftrag
Bruchstruktur
Formtechnik
Herstellungsspuren
Farbe (außen, innen, Scherben nach Munsell)
"Handhabe" here clearly refers to the physical circumstances in which a find was discovered, in terms of position and orientation. "Circumstances", however, seems wrong. Has anyone got any better ideas.
TIA
Jaime
The list includes the following:
Verzierung (Anordnung, Lage und Orientierung)
Mündungsdurchmesser
Bodendurchmesser
Mittlere Wandstärke
Gewicht in g
Handhabe (Lage, Orientierung)
Randform
Bodenform
Gefäßform
Ausgussform
Standvorrichtung
Magerung (Korngröße, Verteilung, Art)
Brandhärte (nach Mohs)
Brandart
Oberflächenstruktur
Oberflächenbehandlung
Oberflächenauftrag
Bruchstruktur
Formtechnik
Herstellungsspuren
Farbe (außen, innen, Scherben nach Munsell)
"Handhabe" here clearly refers to the physical circumstances in which a find was discovered, in terms of position and orientation. "Circumstances", however, seems wrong. Has anyone got any better ideas.
TIA
Jaime
Proposed translations
(English)
| 2 +1 | knob / handle |
Wendy Streitparth
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| 3 +4 | usage/handling/purpose |
Yorkshireman
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| 3 | utility |
gangels (X)
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Change log
Jun 23, 2014 05:41: Wendy Streitparth Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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3 hrs
Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
45 years experience
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
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knob / handle
Depends on what type of object is involved.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:08:23 GMT)
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In this case handle would appear more appropriate:
Die Handhabe ist mit vertikalen und horizontalen Linien verziert.
http://www.museumlueneburg.de/obj/oba-arn.htm
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:23:42 GMT)
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In diesem Text (S. 84) ist von "einer knaufförmigen Handhabe zum besseren Hantieren" (eines Ziegels) die Rede.
http://www.academia.edu/1534474/Renaissancetopferei_an_der_S...
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:08:23 GMT)
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In this case handle would appear more appropriate:
Die Handhabe ist mit vertikalen und horizontalen Linien verziert.
http://www.museumlueneburg.de/obj/oba-arn.htm
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:23:42 GMT)
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In diesem Text (S. 84) ist von "einer knaufförmigen Handhabe zum besseren Hantieren" (eines Ziegels) die Rede.
http://www.academia.edu/1534474/Renaissancetopferei_an_der_S...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much Wendy, and thanks to everyone else to contributed too. In this context it is indeed "handle". I was able to check with the author."
3 hrs
utility
i.e. the purpose of use, I believe is meant here
+4
23 mins
usage/handling/purpose
The terms above only describe what is meant.
This is about the location and orientation of handles, lips, indentations etc. that indicate how the piece of pottery was handled or used - for instance, as a cup, a cooking pot, a drinking vessel etc.
Possibly translatable as "handling elements"
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Note added at 25 mins (2014-06-18 08:24:36 GMT)
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The terms listed all apply to pottery finds, complete, in parts or as shards.
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Note added at 30 mins (2014-06-18 08:29:29 GMT)
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An example of "Handhabe" and "Mündung" for an amphora.
A two-handled (Handhabe) pottery jar with a narrow neck (Mündung) used by the ancient Greeks and Romans to carry liquids, especially wine and oil.
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Note added at 37 mins (2014-06-18 08:36:12 GMT)
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Sorry, a little unclear on my part. The Mündung is the opening at the top of the neck (Hals) - hence the listing of the diameter.
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Note added at 54 mins (2014-06-18 08:53:33 GMT)
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Handhaben - Handhabe - Griff [Ha-1 bis Ha-12]
From this site - http://www.vml.de/e/inhalt.php?ISBN=978-3-89646-515-3&print=...
This is in Duden: mittelhochdeutsch hanthabe, althochdeutsch hanthaba = Griff, Henkel
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:15:47 GMT)
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I suppose you could translate it as "Grips/handles"
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-06-19 06:36:10 GMT)
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According to this site http://interactive.archaeology.org/zominthos/glossary-of-cer...
The opening at the top (Mündung) is a "mouth"
This is about the location and orientation of handles, lips, indentations etc. that indicate how the piece of pottery was handled or used - for instance, as a cup, a cooking pot, a drinking vessel etc.
Possibly translatable as "handling elements"
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Note added at 25 mins (2014-06-18 08:24:36 GMT)
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The terms listed all apply to pottery finds, complete, in parts or as shards.
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Note added at 30 mins (2014-06-18 08:29:29 GMT)
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An example of "Handhabe" and "Mündung" for an amphora.
A two-handled (Handhabe) pottery jar with a narrow neck (Mündung) used by the ancient Greeks and Romans to carry liquids, especially wine and oil.
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Note added at 37 mins (2014-06-18 08:36:12 GMT)
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Sorry, a little unclear on my part. The Mündung is the opening at the top of the neck (Hals) - hence the listing of the diameter.
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Note added at 54 mins (2014-06-18 08:53:33 GMT)
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Handhaben - Handhabe - Griff [Ha-1 bis Ha-12]
From this site - http://www.vml.de/e/inhalt.php?ISBN=978-3-89646-515-3&print=...
This is in Duden: mittelhochdeutsch hanthabe, althochdeutsch hanthaba = Griff, Henkel
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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-06-18 11:15:47 GMT)
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I suppose you could translate it as "Grips/handles"
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Note added at 22 hrs (2014-06-19 06:36:10 GMT)
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According to this site http://interactive.archaeology.org/zominthos/glossary-of-cer...
The opening at the top (Mündung) is a "mouth"
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much, Yorkshireman! I appear to have misunderstood the term totally. I'm very glad I asked. But is the Mündung not the brim, rather than the neck? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Wendy Streitparth
: Sorry - I just looked at your original answer and overlooked the rest!
3 hrs
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No problem - thanks!
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| agree |
philgoddard
5 hrs
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Thanks, Phil
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| agree |
Kate Collyer
: for grips/handles
15 hrs
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THX
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| agree |
Helen Shiner
: handles, not utility etc. here.
1 day 2 hrs
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Thank you, Helen
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Reference comments
3 hrs
Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
45 years experience
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: German to English, French to English, Spanish to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
8
Reference:
Fragment einer grün glasierten Handhabe;
http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/08547/77CB2604A37A8058...
Die überwiegende Mehrheit hat eine Handhabe und eine runde Form, da sie zu Töpfen, Kannen, Krügen oder Schüsseln passen müssen.
http://www.ufg-db.uni-tuebingen.de/sammlung-ma/glossar.php
http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/08547/77CB2604A37A8058...
Die überwiegende Mehrheit hat eine Handhabe und eine runde Form, da sie zu Töpfen, Kannen, Krügen oder Schüsseln passen müssen.
http://www.ufg-db.uni-tuebingen.de/sammlung-ma/glossar.php
Note from asker:
| Thanks very much Wendy. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Yorkshireman
: Hi Wendy - nice to see you here, too :-)
14 mins
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Yes, finally woke up!
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Discussion
"NECK - is the portion of a container, including the orifice, to which a closure is attached."
"ORIFICE - is the opening in a container through which product is dispensed."
http://www.archaeologywordsmith.com/lookup.php?category=&whe...
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Aperture:
http://www.archaeologywordsmith.com/lookup.php?category=&whe...
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Maybe I'm not being lucky today, but I can't for the life of me find aperture as the opening at the top of a vessel (either ceramic or glass), except as the internal diameter of spouts.