Aug 8, 2021 03:52
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English term
payment-based amount
English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
Google Controller-Controller Data Protection Terms
What exactly does this mean in the following context:
If the Agreement is governed by the laws a state of the United States of America, then, regardless of anything else in the Agreement, the total liability of either party towards the other party under or in connection with these Controller Terms will be limited to the maximum monetary or payment-based amount at which that party’s liability is capped under the Agreement (and therefore any exclusion of indemnification claims from the Agreement’s limitation of liability will not apply to indemnification claims under the Agreement relating to the Data Protection Legislation).
Entire context: https://privacy.google.com/businesses/gdprcontrollerterms/
If the Agreement is governed by the laws a state of the United States of America, then, regardless of anything else in the Agreement, the total liability of either party towards the other party under or in connection with these Controller Terms will be limited to the maximum monetary or payment-based amount at which that party’s liability is capped under the Agreement (and therefore any exclusion of indemnification claims from the Agreement’s limitation of liability will not apply to indemnification claims under the Agreement relating to the Data Protection Legislation).
Entire context: https://privacy.google.com/businesses/gdprcontrollerterms/
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English term (edited):
payment-based amount under the agreement
the maximum amount they have to pay under the agreement
is the meaning
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Note added at 7 mins (2021-08-08 04:00:05 GMT)
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the key word is "capped" meaning "maximum" in this context
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Note added at 11 mins (2021-08-08 04:03:24 GMT)
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a linguistic labyrinth as legalese tends to be
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Note added at 7 mins (2021-08-08 04:00:05 GMT)
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the key word is "capped" meaning "maximum" in this context
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Note added at 11 mins (2021-08-08 04:03:24 GMT)
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a linguistic labyrinth as legalese tends to be
Peer comment(s):
agree |
AllegroTrans
: in other words, liquidated damages
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disagree |
Daryo
: you are getting into circular reasoning - defining A by A being A // "payment-based" is one of the two ways how this "maximum payment" is determined.
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an amount that is based on successive smaller payments
An amount that is broken up into smaller payments that one party will pay regularly to the other party.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Daryo
: extremely unlikely to make any sense - a maximum liability defined as a sum of small payments?
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payments made.
The maximum amount payable under the agreement, whether defined in terms of a maximum amount, or PAYMENTS MADE.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Daryo
: this being about "maximum liability" it could also involve a multiplication factor like the penalty being up to 10 /20 / ... times the amount of the contract. Other very real problem: maybe there was "no payments made" whatsoever!!
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You are right. See discussion entry.
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Discussion
1. The Agreement limits the liability of one party to the other by reference to either the maximum monetary amount or the payment-based amount.
2. The maximum monetary amount and the payment-based amount must therefore be different things.
We do not know whether the maximum monetary amount is a predetermined fixed amount, the result of the application of a formula, or something else.
We do not know what a payment-based amount is.
But here, that doesn't help much.
You can get plenty of real-life samples of "payment-based amount" used in various GDPR related terms and conditions.
The only pattern that emerges is that it's always related to "use of data" / "responsibilities of the data controller", but no indications as to what would be the difference between a "payment-based amount" and a "monetary amount".
Mystère and boule de gomme.
Another piece of the puzzle:
This is about the responsibilities (/maximum liability) of a data controller.
Small fly in the ointment: just because there is a database brimming with personal information DOESN'T MEAN that some payment must have been made. How much did you pay to use Facebook or Twitter or any "free email" ...?
There are plenty of "free services" collecting personal information from users or just potential clients without them having to pay anything.
A "data controller's maximum liability" linked to the "amount paid" would then be grand amount of ZERO!
Not very likely ....
The clue is somewhere in the GDPR, for whoever's got time to wade trough it ...