Mar 14, 2019 14:12
5 yrs ago
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French term

Monsieur ... qui constitue pour avocat ...

French to English Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) Subpoena
Monsieur ... qui constitue pour avocat ... de la SELARL ..., société d'avocats au barreau de ...
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Non-PRO (2): Jennifer White, Yvonne Gallagher

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Proposed translations

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22 mins
Selected

Mr... represented by...

The literal translation is "who appoints as his attorney/counsel", but this is how it's more commonly expressed in English.
Peer comment(s):

agree Germaine
2 mins
agree B D Finch : That's also fine, if one doesn't need to be slavishly litteral.
1 hr
agree writeaway : no more difficult than this. one of several ways to go
2 hrs
agree AllegroTrans
22 hrs
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : The most straightforward suggestion.
3 days 7 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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35 mins

Mr. ... who has engaged as his counsel...

Or engaged as his attorney, or any other phrase that means that same thing.

In some contexts what Phil Goddard has proposed would work fine, but without seeing the entire sentence I would advise sticking more closely to the exact meaning of the French.
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : I agree that the context is a bit thin, but this is a subpoena and I assume this sentence is the details of one of the parties.
54 mins
Yes, it probably is. But it says "Mr. X, who engages...," not "Mr. X, represented by..." Same meaning, but this is a closer translation. I just changed the FR present tense to the EN present perfect because that's how we say it (BD Finch does likewise).
agree writeaway
2 hrs
agree AllegroTrans
22 hrs
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2 hrs

who has instructed as his counsel (EN-UK)

You don't say what version of English you need. In Britain, the usual verb is "to instruct".

www.barcouncil.org.uk/media/205850/ppc_ic_lpp_guidance__2_....
Apr 9, 2013 - Barristers Instructed as Independent Counsel to Advise Upon. Legal Professional Privilege in Relation to Seized Material. Introduction.

https://www.3vb.com/our-people/jc/rebecca-zaman
Rebecca is regularly instructed as junior counsel in complex disputes, including recently acting as junior in a 2-week trial in the Commercial Court in Chudley v ...


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Note added at 2 hrs (2019-03-14 16:27:39 GMT)
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Perhaps I should have said in England and Wales, as I don't know how they put it in Scotland.
Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans
20 hrs
Thanks AT
agree Eliza Hall : If UK English, then this.
23 hrs
Thanks Eliza
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "who has instructed X from the firm of ABC as counsel"
3 days 5 hrs
Thanks Nikki
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5 days
French term (edited): Monsieur ... qui constitue pour avocat ...

Mr. ..... whose inatructed lawyer > (US) retained Attorney > is...

As RH points out in the web ref., the avocat appointed - even if enrolled at the Barreau/ Bar - as an 'avocat postulant' (approx. Instructing Solicitor in the UK) may not be the one pleading the case in court (avocat plaidant/ approx. Barrister instructed/ {Scots} Advocate briefed)

It would have been helpful to know the asker's country and/or the target-audience vernacular as an attorney retainer agreement doesn't work too well Transatlantically.

PS sub-poena was a civil term in England & Wales pre-1998 civil justice reforms, whilst summons - now the superordinate, fused term - was used for criminal cases.

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Note added at 5 days (2019-03-20 12:24:19 GMT)
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who instructed lawyer....
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