Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
renuncia a la presentación telemática
English translation:
waives telematic submission
- The asker opted for community grading. The question was closed on 2019-02-25 14:54:07 based on peer agreement (or, if there were too few peer comments, asker preference.)
Feb 22, 2019 10:47
5 yrs ago
15 viewers *
Spanish term
renuncia a la presentación telemática
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
amendment to articles of association
Hola!
This appears in an amendment to articles of association document.
De conformidad con lo dispuesto en el artículo
112 de la Ley 24/2001, en su redacción dada por la Ley 24/2005, el compareciente renuncia a la presentación telemática de la presente escritura en el Registro Mercantil competente.
Current attempt:
? the online submission
Any help appreciated!
This appears in an amendment to articles of association document.
De conformidad con lo dispuesto en el artículo
112 de la Ley 24/2001, en su redacción dada por la Ley 24/2005, el compareciente renuncia a la presentación telemática de la presente escritura en el Registro Mercantil competente.
Current attempt:
? the online submission
Any help appreciated!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +4 | waives telematic submission |
Jane Martin
|
| 4 +3 | waiver of online filing |
Rebecca Jowers
|
Proposed translations
+4
31 mins
Selected
waives telematic submission
or 'electronic', 'on-line', all ok. Just means submitting on-line to the Mercantile Registry.
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/telematicsn
(functioning as singular) the branch of science concerned with the use of technological devices to transmit information over long distances
Etymology: 20th Century: from tele- + ( infor) matics
ˌteleˈmatic
adj
https://iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1550833931663/...
The content of the Mercantile Register is public and open to anyone
interested. Such accessibility is implemented by means of certifications, simple
information notes of entries or copies of the documents recorded, or via telematic media (see Arts 23 of the Commercial Code and 12 of the Mercantile Register Regulations).
http://www.ecrforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/2003 Spain/P...
a) General security measures in the handling of the files of company books submitted by telematic means to the Registry for their legalisation.
https://vila.es/en/blog/telematic-legalisation-company-books...
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/telematicsn
(functioning as singular) the branch of science concerned with the use of technological devices to transmit information over long distances
Etymology: 20th Century: from tele- + ( infor) matics
ˌteleˈmatic
adj
https://iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1550833931663/...
The content of the Mercantile Register is public and open to anyone
interested. Such accessibility is implemented by means of certifications, simple
information notes of entries or copies of the documents recorded, or via telematic media (see Arts 23 of the Commercial Code and 12 of the Mercantile Register Regulations).
http://www.ecrforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/2003 Spain/P...
a) General security measures in the handling of the files of company books submitted by telematic means to the Registry for their legalisation.
https://vila.es/en/blog/telematic-legalisation-company-books...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
+3
32 mins
Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Specializes in field
Spain
30 yrs experience legal-commercial
Native in: English 
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
2222
waiver of online filing
another way of expressing this
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
patinba
: Tidy!
13 mins
|
|
Thanks!
|
|
| agree |
Charles Davis
: Jane's "submission" would be more usual in UK English, I think, though "filing" (an Americanism to my ear) would be fine too.
31 mins
|
|
Thanks, Charles
|
|
| agree |
Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
10 hrs
|
|
Thanks, Patricia
|
|
| neutral |
philgoddard
: Renuncia is a verb.
20 hrs
|
|
Yeah, I know.
|
Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
Online submission of escrituras to the RM: option or obligation?
The law cited in the ST, Article 112.1 of Ley 24/2001 as amended by Ley 24/2005, says this:
"Salvo indicación expresa en contrario de los interesados, los documentos susceptibles de inscripción en los Registros de la propiedad, mercantiles o de bienes muebles podrán ser presentados en éstos por vía telemática [...]"
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2005-19005
However, Article 249.1 of the Reglamento Notarial (RD 45/2007) puts it differently:
"Tratándose de copias autorizadas que contengan actos susceptibles de inscripción en el Registro de la Propiedad o en el Registro Mercantil, de conformidad con el artículo 112 de la Ley 24/2001, de 27 de diciembre, a salvo de que el interesado manifieste lo contrario deberán presentarse telemáticamente."
https://www.boe.es/buscar/doc.php?id=BOE-A-2007-1810
So under the amended terms of Ley 24/2001, online submission is a right (of the interested party), but under the notarial regulations it's an obligation (of the notary), unless it's impossible for technical reasons.
There's a commentary on this discrepancy here; it explains that they put "deberá" in the regulations, even though it says "podrá" in the law, because the priority was to get notaries to adopt online submission as quickly as possible, and it was felt that if they made it merely an option notaries would be reluctant to use it, partly at least because it's inconvenient for the notary in some respects.
https://www.notariosyregistradores.com/doctrina/ARTICULOS/pr...
"Renuncia" (waiver) means declining to use an option, and strictly that fits the amended terms of Ley 24/2001, but actually it's a matter of "oposición"; all the interested parties have to register their objection to online submission, otherwise the notary must do it online. So although "waiver" is the correct translation of "renuncia", there is, shall we say, an element of ambiguity about this.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2019-02-22 11:54:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Sorry, it's Article 249.2 of the regulations, not 249.1.
"Salvo indicación expresa en contrario de los interesados, los documentos susceptibles de inscripción en los Registros de la propiedad, mercantiles o de bienes muebles podrán ser presentados en éstos por vía telemática [...]"
https://www.boe.es/buscar/act.php?id=BOE-A-2005-19005
However, Article 249.1 of the Reglamento Notarial (RD 45/2007) puts it differently:
"Tratándose de copias autorizadas que contengan actos susceptibles de inscripción en el Registro de la Propiedad o en el Registro Mercantil, de conformidad con el artículo 112 de la Ley 24/2001, de 27 de diciembre, a salvo de que el interesado manifieste lo contrario deberán presentarse telemáticamente."
https://www.boe.es/buscar/doc.php?id=BOE-A-2007-1810
So under the amended terms of Ley 24/2001, online submission is a right (of the interested party), but under the notarial regulations it's an obligation (of the notary), unless it's impossible for technical reasons.
There's a commentary on this discrepancy here; it explains that they put "deberá" in the regulations, even though it says "podrá" in the law, because the priority was to get notaries to adopt online submission as quickly as possible, and it was felt that if they made it merely an option notaries would be reluctant to use it, partly at least because it's inconvenient for the notary in some respects.
https://www.notariosyregistradores.com/doctrina/ARTICULOS/pr...
"Renuncia" (waiver) means declining to use an option, and strictly that fits the amended terms of Ley 24/2001, but actually it's a matter of "oposición"; all the interested parties have to register their objection to online submission, otherwise the notary must do it online. So although "waiver" is the correct translation of "renuncia", there is, shall we say, an element of ambiguity about this.
--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 hr (2019-02-22 11:54:51 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------
Sorry, it's Article 249.2 of the regulations, not 249.1.
Something went wrong...